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Prometheus The Fire-Bringer | Freedom in John Milton's Paradise Lost | Behind The Bible | 3 of 3
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In the last part of this 3 part series, we look into the source for John Milton's Satan as depicted in Paradise Lost (1667), and come face to face with the grand humanist figure of Prometheus - The Fire-Bringer. We first meet this figure in the works of the Greek tragedian Aeschylus (c. 525 - 456 BCE), and quickly begin to discover that Milton's, as well as the biblical Satan (or perhaps more correctly 'Lucifer'), were taken from this ancient greek mythical figure of the fire-bringer. Fire kindles both heat and light, and these humanist rebels were set on freeing humankind from the benighted and wretched lot of ignorance imposed on them by their gods.
Was Satan, who was based on Prometheus, in fact the grand-humanist, and benefactor of mankind? Indeed, one thing is for certain - they both brought knowledge, to humanity...
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THE WRITTEN WORLD - LIFE LESSONS FROM LITERATURE
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The Problem of Evil in John Milton's Paradise Lost | Behind The Bible | 2 of 3
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Join The Written World channel to get access to perks: ua-cam.com/channels/pfvVj36P6Z9T_9COJONZUg.htmljoin Value My Work? - Support me on Patreon : www.patreon.com/TheWrittenWorld Dive into the timeless masterpiece 'Paradise Lost' by John Milton (1667) for profound insights into the concepts of good, evil, morality and freedom. Far from a frivolous poem, Paradise Lost grapples with age-old ques...
Reimagining Satan's Rebellion & Morality | John Milton's Paradise Lost | Behind The Bible | 1 of 3
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Join this channel to get access to perks: ua-cam.com/channels/pfvVj36P6Z9T_9COJONZUg.htmljoin Value My Work? - Support me on Patreon : www.patreon.com/TheWrittenWorld John Milton's Epic Poem 'Paradise Lost' (1667) is a must-read for anyone who wants to understand notions of evil, good, god, morality and freedom. But is God good? And is Satan Evil? Was he not a fallen angel? Milton holds the key...
How To Write With Density | George Orwell | 1984
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Value My Work? - Support me on Patreon : www.patreon.com/TheWrittenWorld George Orwell teaches you how to write with density in his seminal work, Nineteen Eighty-Four (1984). Storytelling techniques from a much misunderstood novel. RECOMMENDED READING: 1984 Nineteen Eighty-Four: New Edition of the Twentieth Century's Dystopian Masterpiece: amzn.eu/d/gYi1SnY PATREON: Support me on Patreon: www.p...
How To Find Your Purpose | Ralph Waldo Emerson | On Power | Transcendentalism
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Value My Work? - Support me on Patreon : www.patreon.com/TheWrittenWorld Transcendentalist poet Ralph Waldo Emerson tells you how to find your purpose. Taken from The Meditations. RECOMMENDED READING: The Meditations of Ralph Waldo Emerson: Into the Green Future (Nature's Inspiration) - amzn.eu/d/izgDcY1 PATREON: Support me on Patreon: www.patreon.com/TheWrittenWorld SOCIAL MEDIA: Twitter: twit...
This Is Why You're Unhappy | Ovid | Orpheus & Eurydice | Psychology
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Value My Work? - Support me on Patreon : www.patreon.com/TheWrittenWorld The myth of Orpheus and Eurydice offers up its psychological secrets as to why human beings suffer from unhappiness. And more... This work gives us simple, yet often overlooked insights that are crucial to mental health, and psychological and mental wellbeing. RECOMMENDED READING: The Metamorphoses of Ovid: amzn.eu/d/e4DNY...
Sylvia Plath's LADY LAZARUS Poem: ON LIFE, DEATH AND RESURRECTION
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‘He cried with a loud voice, “Lazarus, come forth!” And he that was dead came forth, bound hand and foot with graveclothes, and his face was bound about with a napkin.’ John: Chapter 11, Verses 43-44 Sylvia Plath's poem 'Lady Lazarus' is an exploration of her powerlessness against the unstoppable death instinct, yet one where she attempts, as the artist that she is, to transform this powerlessn...
HOW TO UNDERSTAND THE WORLD | The Poetry Of Pablo Neruda And The Language Of Living
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Value My Work? - Support me on Patreon: www.patreon.com/TheWrittenWorld The Poetry of Pablo Neruda, far from being merely spoken or written words, contain a philosophy which puts forth his idea of how to understand the world, how to approach life and the role of the tongue and the eye in this adventure. To attempt to encapsulate the poet Pablo Neruda, is to miss the point, entirely. He was not ...
The Catcher in the Rye | JD Salinger and The Shadow of Buddhism
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‘I keep picturing all these little kids playing some game in this big field of rye and all. Thousands of little kids, and nobody's around-nobody big, I mean-except me. And I'm standing on the edge of some crazy cliff. What I have to do, I have to catch everybody if they start to go over the cliff [...] That's all I'd do all day. I'd just be the catcher in the rye and all. I know it's crazy, but...
The War Poetry of Wilfred Owen | Love, Greatness and Suffering | Remembrance Day
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Wilfred Owen, in his poem 'Greater Love', written due to the sufferings he witnessed and experienced through World War I, explores the biblical concept that 'Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends', (John 15:13). Owen soon came to protest the war and felt that young men were being led to their deaths for no good reason, sacrificed on the alter of nation...
HOW TO WRITE A GREAT SENTENCE | The Art of Writing | Hemingway | Faulkner | Amis | Provost
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Longest Piece of English Literature? At least American English? William Faulkner? Tersest Sentences? Hemingway? Style or content, which is the most important? ‘We are fond of separating style and content for the purposes of analysis, and so on, but they aren't separable, they come from the same place, and style is morality, style judges.’ This is a quote taken from Martin Amis’s essay on Saul B...
Sylvia Plath's 'Daddy': Identities, Selves and Others: HOW LOVE KILLS US ALL
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The Poem 'Daddy' (her most confessional poem) was written by Sylvia Plath just four months before she committed suicide in her London home in February 1963. She was just 30 years old. It explores Identities, Selves and Others and how they create and destroy one another. In a 1962 BBC interview she describes it as one girl’s confrontation with the unresolved Electra complex manifested in the wak...
Ray Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451: The Clash of Woke Culture & Reason
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Fahrenheit 451 explores the attack on Reason brought about by postmodernism and its surrogates such as so-called 'woke' culture, 'social justice' and all that falls under regressive tendencies in 'modern' times; merely banal rehashings of such instincts that have existed for millennia. Modernism holds that there is progress 'in potentia', which is undeniable - while postmodernism (amongst other...
To Kill a Mockingbird | Symbolism, Summary & Analysis
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To Kill a Mockingbird | Symbolism, Summary & Analysis
How Nietzsche Overturned Centuries of Thinking | Socrates is Dead!
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How Nietzsche Overturned Centuries of Thinking | Socrates is Dead!
Coronavirus: Insights from Albert Camus' 'The Plague'
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Coronavirus: Insights from Albert Camus' 'The Plague'
Walt Whitman on Death as Illusion
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Walt Whitman on Death as Illusion
George Orwell On Sexuality and Liberation | 1984 | My first, (and terrible) video
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George Orwell On Sexuality and Liberation | 1984 | My first, (and terrible) video

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  • @cademackenzie4402
    @cademackenzie4402 2 дні тому

    I will always be a hemingway man. thank you for this video

  • @shelbysnellen725
    @shelbysnellen725 5 днів тому

    Can't hear it😢

  • @capitaldharma
    @capitaldharma 8 днів тому

    You point to a key insight about The first Noble Truth towards the end of this video. This Truth says suffering is a fact of life, which you acknowledge, and it is suffering that makes us human and that makes life beautiful. The teaching is not that you should deny life or flee suffering. It’s the opposite. You should go into it and experience it in order to be free. Note that when we study the six realms, it is the human realm that is the only realm where you can gain nirvana. Why is that? The teaching is not to escape into the highest realm of godlike bliss. It is to stay in the human realm and gain insight from suffering. This is the way of the artist. 😊

  • @zbyszeks3657
    @zbyszeks3657 10 днів тому

    Great video. But as about the Nietzsche I must admit I am confused, cause I see no brilliance at all. The truth is a symptom? Cause everyone has an interest? And... that interest of Nietzsche was...? And his narration is....? Just his revenge on the world and people for his unfulfilled and pity life? That's what he delivers? Wow, how great! Did he had will for/of power? Did he WANT something? Yes. He proposed to a woman for a marriage. He was rejected. Did he propose again? Yes... And was... rejected. He became alone. But of course he enjoyed life and was unbermensch. Maybe through his sad and depression emanating writings he just wanted others to share his burden, which he alleviate by abusing drugs. Just... like an ubermensch.

  • @karlayork877
    @karlayork877 20 днів тому

    I can't recall the exact quote, but Hemingway once compared writing a novel to writing for a newspaper, as if those SHOULD be equivalents. That's when I realized why I disliked Hemingway. If he and Faulkner had been painters, rather than writers, Faulkner would have been a Renoir; Hemingway would have painted fences.

  • @oneill765
    @oneill765 20 днів тому

    Wow that was really something. Thank you.

  • @kaiser94exodus89
    @kaiser94exodus89 20 днів тому

    I am astonished ! I never really tried to read something from Aristotle or Socrates or Nietzsche because I thought the language was going to be a super complex and formal set of paragraphs to convey a meaning of a sentence. please tell me where I can find this book which says to live in life is to live ill. also what about the first book of Nietzsche? is it simply written? can i understand it as a beginner english level learner? I always have been told that Nietzsche was against religions and that most of his works were debunking the holly books of religions and disproving god and inviting people to nihilism?

  • @ArtemHahauz-nm7bk
    @ArtemHahauz-nm7bk 26 днів тому

    It's gripping how these eminent writers are compared here. Thank you for this video! Best regards from Ukraine!

  • @dannyreyna2821
    @dannyreyna2821 27 днів тому

    "You have to read alot and write alot." -Stephen King

  • @HarryNicNicholas
    @HarryNicNicholas 28 днів тому

    everyone seems to assume hell is going to be horrid. if i go to hell then GOD is "punishing me" for my sins, but why would satan want to punish me too? satan despises christians. if i'm being punished by satan, then satan is doing god's work - that makes zero sense. hell is more likely to be eternity having more fun than you ever could on earth, this is what god hates, heaven will just be eternal worship, satan is SAVING you from an eternity of boredom and slavery. i see no reason why hell wouldn't be a great place to be, no mind control, no commandments to follow, just eternal life that you can probably quit if you get bored with learning guitar from hendrix or trying to grasp relativity from einstein. why would hell be undesirable? why would satan want to torment me - he detests god and christians, not sinners.

  • @HarryNicNicholas
    @HarryNicNicholas 28 днів тому

    very nicely done, great visuals smoothly edited. i will have to cruise your channel now. :)

  • @fwvw7056
    @fwvw7056 Місяць тому

    How would people here place J. Salter in this debate?

  • @michaelmoran8755
    @michaelmoran8755 Місяць тому

    That was beautiful. Thank you.

  • @orchardjpg
    @orchardjpg Місяць тому

    Not a huge fan of Hemingway, but I love Didion and she used got her style from copying Hemingway books front to back in her notebooks.

  • @davidash2727
    @davidash2727 Місяць тому

    Wow!!! Where ignirant armies clash by night....

  • @carld2796
    @carld2796 Місяць тому

    I thought the same thing about Faulkner and Hemingway I the comparison. Somewhere in the middle.

  • @imjock8343
    @imjock8343 Місяць тому

    I have been practising writing since 2020, started writing my first novel, and then took a break. So far, I have learned one hardest lesson, which is that you don't need big words or a complex construction of a sentence to tell a sequence, rather you can deliver a message with the usage of proper nouns and verbs. In addition, the minimum usage of adjectives is better for a clear understanding. To conclude, your readability score and literary are not predominant in writing, especially fiction writing and story-telling.

  • @Anthony-hu3rj
    @Anthony-hu3rj Місяць тому

    I'm not sure M. Amis was involved in this video at all.

  • @AlexanderAudition201
    @AlexanderAudition201 Місяць тому

    Great video need to watch it twice.

  • @Aldiyktatur_
    @Aldiyktatur_ Місяць тому

    I prefer flowery prose,myself,although I do like a simple lettered book to cleanse the palette.

  • @Mr.Cheese-Man
    @Mr.Cheese-Man 2 місяці тому

    thank you so much, this is helping me pass my class 🙏

  • @novuki
    @novuki 2 місяці тому

    I can save her

  • @staykinduniverse
    @staykinduniverse 2 місяці тому

    the tortured poets department foundress

  • @matsalvatore9074
    @matsalvatore9074 2 місяці тому

    I revisit this video maybe a dozen times in 2 years. So good

  • @carlocerutti7932
    @carlocerutti7932 2 місяці тому

    One of the best channel on UA-cam. Soul Healing.

  • @stephenwalker2924
    @stephenwalker2924 2 місяці тому

    noun: elegant variation "the stylistic fault of studiedly finding different ways to denote the same thing in a piece of writing, merely to avoid repetition." Like music. Simple.

  • @alextsikkos
    @alextsikkos 2 місяці тому

    Very well written and presented. Outstanding quality!

  • @Brooder85
    @Brooder85 2 місяці тому

    Poor girl.

  • @harrydeanbrown6166
    @harrydeanbrown6166 2 місяці тому

    Appreciate creator's effort. But the music overwhelms the message (on my equipment at least). As a UA-camr myself, I see no need ever for music unless music is the subject of the show. It always detracts from the message.

  • @sethkinle2254
    @sethkinle2254 2 місяці тому

    You're a fool

  • @blueyedmule
    @blueyedmule 2 місяці тому

    Now I understand why so many writers also dabble in music, and why in turn so many musicians have also written, and why the southern black gospel preacher nearly sings his sermons.

  • @iainwilliamwiseman4602
    @iainwilliamwiseman4602 3 місяці тому

    Arlo Parks and dare I say Lana Del Ray led me to this. "To the same place, the same face, the same brute" is a line I possibly will never forget

  • @timmy18135
    @timmy18135 3 місяці тому

    This kind of reminds us all of how the Germans were used by Hitler

  • @preakereyes
    @preakereyes 3 місяці тому

    Electra complex is not the same as daddy issues?? Sylvia was not attracted to her father nor did she feel to compete with her mother. The term is a disgusting way of "psychoanalysing" a woman grieving.

  • @flabarre9776
    @flabarre9776 3 місяці тому

    Probably the best video on writing I have ever seen. And thank you for the warning of Faulkner.

    • @TheWrittenWorldSubscribeNow
      @TheWrittenWorldSubscribeNow 3 місяці тому

      Thanks so much, Flabarre. That means so much. Let me ask you, what types of videos would you really like to see?

  • @macksonamission1784
    @macksonamission1784 3 місяці тому

    Ironically, the very critique of tyranny here depends on the Judeo-Christian heritage that celebrates the exodus from slavery; the prophets who rise up to lambast the king, holding him accountable to a law that transcends his tyrannical might; the liberation from superstitious idol worship to the enlightened, pure worship of the invisible, uncreated One; the turning of the Roman empire from sex-crazed, anthropomorphic Zeus to the invisible God of the Jews; the reformers smashing papist images, etc. Read Tom Holland's dominion. Post-enlightenment atheism stands in a clear line of demythologization running back through the protestant reformers, the early iconoclasts, and the Israelite prophets. Milton's Satan can only critique God with the moral tools God handed him.

  • @macksonamission1784
    @macksonamission1784 3 місяці тому

    I have listened to all three of these now. You have such a captivating voice and a real mastery of rythm and subdued gravitas, not to mention the excellent writing. A real joy to listen to. My comment on part 2 really stands as my principal response to the ideas you've posited in this series. I don't find the epircuean dilemma quite so damning as you summarily declared it to be, and the portrait of tyranny as the only possible explanation does not even require an appeal beyond Genesis 3, but simply to the experience of raising a child one loves (see my comment on part 2). But, leaving that main point aside, I wanted to ask if you might consider whether reframing "knowledge" in a different aspect. You've mentioned science and technae, but propositional and procedural knowledge are not the only kinds of knowing, though they were highly favored by the enlightenment thinkers to the neglect and final forgetting of the others. The hebrew conception of "knowing" is relational, the knowing of another. It was their very euphemism for intercourse. Dr. John Vervaeke calls this "participatory" knowledge, and it is related too to perspectival knowledge, the knowledge of the experience of being who and what you are when and where you're there. Satan offers the power of procedural technique and propositional control divorced from the relational knowing of the only source of wisdom for how to employ the former. For all the "is" that science can give, it can't afford us the least "ought". In contrast, the Bible offers the tantalizing prospect that we might "know fully, even as we are fully known." All the science in the world (with its marvels and horrors alike) isn't worth the love and knowing I share with my family. And yet they aren't mutually exclusive. Indeed, those in Christ are to anticipate "participation in the divine nature", "being like angels", etc. As a divine Lawgiver grounds all rationality and intelligibility, science was carried and handed down to the "enlightenment thinkers" by Christians and Muslims who'd been at it for centuries. I suspect Iain McGilchrist might well say that Milton's Satan is precisely the emissary who usurps the master, thereby undermining his very self. Thanks for hosting these topics for conversation!

    • @TheWrittenWorldSubscribeNow
      @TheWrittenWorldSubscribeNow 3 місяці тому

      Thanks again MacksOnAMission. I really appreciate your conversation. The Epicurean dilemma is, as argument, objectively substantial and timeless. It cannot be overturned without destroying the idea of an omnipotent and omnibenevolent God. You have mentioned the fact that you are a father on a couple of occasions now. May your children live long and prosper. If God came down from his mighty throne and asked you to sacrifice your children as Abraham was commanded to sacrifice son Isaac at Moriah, what would you say? We, with our tiny human hearts, spring into action at the mere weeping of a child , and you think that a god who is INFINITELY compassionate would fill the world with such horror (amongst the beauty, of course?) Infinite compassion would mean, not an iota of suffering. That is love. That is compassion. Maybe you have something to teach the divine king about true love? (Don't shrink from the possibility). Further, what both Satan and Prometheus gave to man was the knowledge of Good and Evil - and let it not be forgotten that without knowledge of Good and Evil, one can be neither Evil, nor Good in the human sense. So whether propositional; procedural; or relational, it was indeed knowledge that was endowed to man by these benefactors. And notice that in fact, these distinctions are arbitrary and artificial. Knowledge implies them all. The attack on science, didn't take long to emerge. And (if you'll forgive me for saying so), is rather expected from one on a mission. It comes with the territory. Darwin has a lot to tell you about your relationship to your children, and this is no disparagement to our human love - which I would argue, is the only house of love to exist. Isn't that incredible to you? It is to me... There is deep beauty in it. Knowing that we are mammals, for example, gives us a lot of 'oughts', and 'ought nots', as does neuroscience, chemistry, physics, biology, etc. Finally, the idea that "Science was carried and handed down to the enlightenment thinkers, (which I notice, you placed in quotation marks) by Christians and Muslims who'd been at it for centuries," is so wrong, (forgive me) that it stalls attempts at negation. The Enlightenment was ignited by a rediscovery of ancient Greek approaches to knowledge, and those Christians and Muslims (temporarily) rested on the shoulders of Aristotle and other ancient thinkers - that is, their methods were successful ONLY insofar as they departed from dogma and faith. As for Iain McGilchrist, I would argue that Satan (and Prometheus); by allowing for human beings to "see the whole", would render them Masters to begin with. I could be wrong about this juxtaposition though, and I'm currently reading through his, "The Matter With Things". Thank you MacksOnAMission. I really appreciate it. Sapere Aude.

    • @macksonamission1784
      @macksonamission1784 3 місяці тому

      ​@@TheWrittenWorldSubscribeNow I'm so thankful you honored my comment with a substantial reply, even if you think parts were too wrong to even really bother with. I have listened to the pedigree of science arguments on both sides, and it really seems more nuanced than either extreme position would have it, but let us at least allow that the "rediscovery" (I'll say dissemination) of ancient Greek approaches was dependent on the preservation of those texts by (who else?) religious people. The combination of printing, translation, and intercourse between Greek, Latin, and Arabic-speaking civilizations, as well as the weaking grip of the Roman church following the various reformations were necessary groundwork for the century of the luminaries. Copying and preserving to laborious work before printing, so the access of such works for rediscovery does not exactly betoken neglect or suppression by the religious scholars who preserved them. The Epicurean dilemma is watertight, like more arguments, only if one grants all of the premises. I would not grant the second premise, namely, that if God is able to prevent evil but is not willing to, then he is not all-good, or, as you put it, "Infinite compassion would mean not an iota of suffering." I don't buy that at all. In fact, I'd like to know how you justify it. In fact, as a finite being, many of the greatest goods I have experienced depend on suffering. If you remove all suffering, you also remove all courage, self-sacrifice, heroism, selfless love, generosity, meaningful honesty, humility, self-control, patience, and most other virtues to boot. Every meaningful, beautiful, transformative moment in my life depended in some fashion on suffering. Christian anthropology is content that God, in permitting a zone of genuine agency to creatures and thereby opening the gates to finite evils, also afforded the possibilities for greater ultimate goods. If any story bucks that premise, it's the Christian story, in which the Son of God himself suffers the greatest evil only to turn it into the greatest good. As for the attack on science, I am an agricultural microbiologist by trade and employ and delight in the wonderful tools of science in my daily work learning about the incredible nexus of soil, plant, and microbe. It isn't science I attack, but the exaltation of empiricism above all other knowledge. I invoke McGilchrist because in The Master and His Emissary, he elaborates on the left-hemispheric tendencies of the famous enlightenment thinkers like Descartes and Voltaire. I do indeed place it in quotes. By covering up the eye of the gestalt, of the agentic, the new scientists were able to more readily grasp and wield the world. The left hemisphere has awesome powers of manipulation and control, but only by ignoring and shutting out some aspects of the combinatorially-explosive, unintelligible, non-empirical dimensions of reality. And so that which afforded clarity on the physical world obfuscated much. It discarded the dimension of the sacred, dispensed with the wisdom that would impede "progress" for progress' sake, dehumanized man himself, and ignored that which it could not subject to computation. At least in The Master and His Emissary, McGilchrist classed the enlightenment as a turn away from the whole in favor of the dissection, categorization, and manipulation of the parts. You won't here any argument from me though about faith and dogma having a mega distortion field if pressed into science. I see that plenty in my own circles. But it is a mistake too to think that intelligent science demands the wholesale rejection of all things faith and dogma. I will appeal to "enlightenment" contemporary Blaise Pascal on this point, whose fervent faith and mathematic and technological prowess makes that point well enough. You are bothered that my Christianity concieves of man as a child relative to God. Yet Christianity, acknowledging our lowness, promises theosis. The "enlightenment" makes man the highest creature in the cosmos, namely, a very clever primate. Will you tell me an "ought" that you think science hands us on its own? Godspeed on The Matter with Things". I have yet to brave those waters. P.S. As I recall, God did not actually have Abraham sacrifice Isaac, and indeed child sacrifice is rather on the top of the list of things that God finds abhorrent in the Hebrew scriptures.

    • @macksonamission1784
      @macksonamission1784 2 місяці тому

      ​@@TheWrittenWorldSubscribeNow McGilchrist has just reminded me through his recent interview with Jordan Peterson that, in the final chapter of "The Master and His Emissary," he points to Milton's Lucifer as a picture of the usurping intellect, of the titular emissary. It might be worth a pause in The Matter with Things to visit that chapter. Cheers, mate.

  • @macksonamission1784
    @macksonamission1784 3 місяці тому

    I withhold knowledge from my small children that they are not yet mature and disciplined enough to assimilate and master-knowledge of sex, pharmaceuticals, of weapons and war, of cosmetics, influence, and so on. I will unveil it in time, but meanwhile they are made ready by walking with me as Adam once walked with God in the garden before he reached out and took on his own terms. A fool might find beautiful ways of calling my loving care for my kiddos tyranny and self-assertion, but they would be mistaken. Knowing good and evil is a frequent biblical idiom for maturity. It is a mistake to think it was to be withheld forever. When the chorus calls out in the Song of Solomon, "Do not arise nor awaken love before its time!" It would be nonsense to conclude then that the time would never come for the Beloved to be united to her Lover, for that is the consumation of the Song.

    • @TheWrittenWorldSubscribeNow
      @TheWrittenWorldSubscribeNow 3 місяці тому

      Hi Mack whose on a mission. Thanks for your contribution. I think it's telling that you would compare adult human beings to children; which implies an overseer and a father, and an infantilism which robs human beings of moral responsibility. "When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things." Second, let's not forget that the only reason that 'it' wasn't withheld, was due to the eating of the fruit, and that knowledge of good and evil (ie. of moral self-determination), was PUNISHED by god. Allegedly. And if, as you say, "Knowing good and evil is a frequent biblical idiom for maturity", make no mistake, that the credit goes to Lucifer, the light-bringer, and of course Prometheus, the fire-bringer.

    • @macksonamission1784
      @macksonamission1784 3 місяці тому

      ​@@TheWrittenWorldSubscribeNow I think you must have very different intuitions about parenting and moral responsibility than I. My guardianship of my children does not rob my children of moral responsibility. Far from it. My care is the arena in which they develop and grow their moral character by taking on greater and greater responsbility-not too little such that they grow selfish, callous, or uncaring; nor so much that they are crushed by the load. Our family is the arena that affords them the opportunity to *become* moral creatures. Having no parents does not produce an übermensch. It produces a feral child. It's no accident, I think, that God is call, by Christ, the Father. Relationship with the Creator has not robbed me of moral responsibility. It has been the most demanding, rigorous, transformative force in my life. It has been the school in which I learn to know good and evil, not to, as the refrain of chaos goes, "to do what is good in my own eyes." Along with Christian and Jewish sages back beyond written record, I beg to differ very strongly with your assertion that, "the only reason that 'it' wasn't withheld, was due to the eating of the fruit." It has long been held that that tree was a "not yet", not a "never". Adam and Eve were children, gullible, rubes. They were no more ready for that knowledge than my children are to be awakened to sexual knowledge by a predatory uncle or school teacher. The Father, just like every admirable human father, intends his children for maturity. The fruit was indeed desireable, as are so many things, but that which is desireable becomes death to us when seized on my own terms and in my own time. I differ as well with the simplistic notion that Adam and Eve were simply punished. If my son saw a horror film about a serial killer, introducing him to ideas and horrors he is not ready to process, and then he got hold of a knife and stabbed a kid at school, there may well be punishment, but many of the consequences would be the necessary steps to adjusting to the fact that he had discovered attitudes and means of destruction that he was not morally developed enough yet to manage. His separation from classmates would be as much protection as punishment. If he got a phone too soon and too soon discovered porn, there would be a fallout in his relationships with girls that would not be a punishment from anyone. They would come as a consequence of that knowledge come by too soon. Adam and Eve are exiled from the garden so that, in their now relationally-alienated (they don't even know yet to choose humility and repentance over petty finger-pointing), self-led state, they must be protected from making their current corruption permanent. But they are given the garments of skin for protection, given the gift of children, and given the promise of a final defeat of the serpent from their own offspring. Lucifer indeed brings a kind of light. He is the pedophile, the gang-leader, the child-trafficker, who comes telling you the Father is trying to keep you from realizing your full potential, that you should shake off his shackles and strike out. Surely he wants better for you than the Father. Sure, I'll give him that.

  • @AAtas
    @AAtas 3 місяці тому

    Unquestionably the finest, truly unparalleled excellence, and the epitome of quality! ❤️

  • @partikkumawat4989
    @partikkumawat4989 3 місяці тому

    Several words combined together forms a sentence. Sentences combined, forms paragraph. Paragraphs made a chapter. And several chapters became a book.

  • @MagnusMorris-wp4it
    @MagnusMorris-wp4it 3 місяці тому

    This is not true because God is the origin of Good

    • @TheWrittenWorldSubscribeNow
      @TheWrittenWorldSubscribeNow 3 місяці тому

      Is the pious loved by the gods because it is pious, or is it pious because it is loved by the gods?

    • @MagnusMorris-wp4it
      @MagnusMorris-wp4it 3 місяці тому

      @@TheWrittenWorldSubscribeNow There is only one God. And that is the father, the son and the holy spirit.

    • @MagnusMorris-wp4it
      @MagnusMorris-wp4it 3 місяці тому

      @@TheWrittenWorldSubscribeNow And what you speak nonsense. God has shown his love and goodness.Through the sacrifice of his son.

    • @TheWrittenWorldSubscribeNow
      @TheWrittenWorldSubscribeNow 3 місяці тому

      @MagnusMorris-wp4it That adds up.

    • @MagnusMorris-wp4it
      @MagnusMorris-wp4it 3 місяці тому

      @@TheWrittenWorldSubscribeNow And if you don't somehow understand. It means that God loves humanity. Because God is love.

  • @HarryMcKenzie-el2nt
    @HarryMcKenzie-el2nt 3 місяці тому

    this was a great video, however, i thought the final sentence when you said "in order that we may create a better world" was unsubstantiated and ostentatious

    • @TheWrittenWorldSubscribeNow
      @TheWrittenWorldSubscribeNow 3 місяці тому

      Thanks Harry. But I think you miss the point. The clue is in Amis' position that "style is morality."

  • @HailamVo
    @HailamVo 3 місяці тому

    The more we seem to know the more we are certain about where our limited knowledge ends. The wider the search, the more uncertain the aim. We reject what we ought to become, because if our navigation system is based on an outer cause, the burden of selfhood is lightened. I agree with your premise that is a very clever analogy, one that most elusive minds would accept that direction disguised as the answer. I know not that if I know, but I believe that someone else must know what I don’t know, hence the journey and the subjugation of the mind. 😂

  • @liketheroman
    @liketheroman 3 місяці тому

    Following the Fred?

  • @orangewarm1
    @orangewarm1 4 місяці тому

    Good points. I was brought up a christian, but debated a lot with athiests. I would say God is indifferent. The free will argument makes God an observer. However, following Jesus teachings, the best way to LIVE is to behave in a good manner ie generosity, charity, caring, helping etc. This way of acting is beneficial for society.

    • @MagnusMorris-wp4it
      @MagnusMorris-wp4it 3 місяці тому

      The free will argument is not an argument It's a fact. For if it was not true then no one will be evil. God would just make everyone to stop sining.

  • @FaceEatingOwl
    @FaceEatingOwl 4 місяці тому

    👍

  • @готочка
    @готочка 4 місяці тому

    пожалуйста, сделайте русские субтитры, у меня пока что очень низкий уровень английского, но мне очень хочется смотреть ваши видео

  • @noonesomeone669
    @noonesomeone669 4 місяці тому

    Milton created one of literature’s most unintentionally tragic and transcendent heroes in Satan. Paradise Lost excels at being a theodicy not for the God its author likely intended but his worst enemy.

    • @TheWrittenWorldSubscribeNow
      @TheWrittenWorldSubscribeNow 4 місяці тому

      Agreed, completely, NoOne'sSomeone. Parts 2 and 3 coming up... Thanks for your comment. Need more of this.

    • @noonesomeone669
      @noonesomeone669 4 місяці тому

      @@TheWrittenWorldSubscribeNow Something else to consider is how impactful Milton’s perspective would be it be the still centuries away romantic period and the birth of Romantic Satanism. Easily digestible literature analysis is lacking on social media and I will look forward to what more you have to say.

  • @Negentropy.
    @Negentropy. 4 місяці тому

    Awesome new video

  • @hashamkhan4220
    @hashamkhan4220 4 місяці тому

    Close reading!❤